Friday, December 29, 2023

Australia Housing Story

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67723760.amp 

43 comments:

Unknown said...

Sounds like Canada's housing problems.
We might get housing results sooner if all the Vacation Rentals were shut down.
Without the incentive of making money from a house by turning it into a Vacation Rental Business, house prices could drop if there are no business buyers for those 'no longer Vacation Rental properties'.
Make housing back into housing.
What a strange idea!

Anonymous said...

The majority of STR’ s would presently list in the 2 mil range. If there was a 30% correction in pricing,, how many locals looking for a house would find 1.4 affordable?

Anonymous said...

To 7:42 I assume you are identifying a problem with housing for locals, rather than a rational for the status quo.

Anonymous said...

Idealism trumps reality! This is such a great idea forcing VR's to become long-term rental units is going to work to solve today's housing crisis. I don't see why it won't work… I'm really eager to rent my nicely furnished house again to four or five young people working in the service industry who will automatically take really good care of my house. They won't wreck anything, damage much, Break the stove, do crazy things in the house that shouldn't be done in a building, bring pets galore, cut a few trees down so they can see the water, remove a bearing wall between the kitchen and the dining room, skateboard in the house, wax surfboards on the dining room table, friends crash there a lot, have parties dancing on the kitchen counter and living room table, Hula hoop in the house marking the ceiling and the walls with different colors, paint other walls fluorescent red and green, spendi time on the roof watching sunsets, selling marijuana, raising chickens in the backyard, selling eggs, sublet to 3 more people than 5 allowed on the rental agreement, put signs on the porch advertising eggs massages tattoos, don't pay the rent and when asked to move out because living in my van turned out to be not much fun, refuse. After many full hours spent talking to the residential tenancy branch, mediation, and eventually a hearing online months later while everyone still lives there free in what used to be my home, im need to pay a bailiff $1500 to come from Nanaimo to put the tenants and their possessions on the sidewalk. Yes I can't wait to stop being a VR so I can do this again. Almost like the most fun I've ever had.

Anonymous said...

There is a huge market out there but the basics of supply and demand have been curtailed by excessive gov't intervention on one hand and a lack of action on infrastructure on the other. There are a million reasons why any and every proposed development should be stopped, curtailed, delayed and smothered in red tape. The people in power make a living out of raising red flags, pandering to a socially "conservative" ethos (stop change), virtue signaling about every tree, the environment and deep sixing legitimate proposals. The justification for their careers depends on it.

In Tofino's past you could get a bldg permit in two weeks. That was a long time ago. The results, the housing, was so bad (sic)that for the last 30 years people have been trying to protect that housing and the "village" atmosphere from any further growth. Municipal officials, Council included, have spent more effort on stopping everything than on any reasonable plans for development. Let the market work. If there is an unserviced sector or market ie unserviced demand, business will find it and serve it. Supply.
A whole new generation that has been cut out of a future, hopes for change, as the last gasps of the politically correct boomers weakens.

Anonymous said...

To 10:56 you could move into your house and do long term or short term rentals. You should stop moaning.

Anonymous said...

I ❤️ Housepimps

Anonymous said...

11:15 is the absolute truth in Tofino and a lot of other places. All in the name of sustainability and smart growth. Enough red tape to strangle the entire country.

Anonymous said...

Yes, you must insulate your house to arctic standards while council worries about global warming . Alternatively , it’s okay for hundreds of workers to live in uninsulated RVs.

Anonymous said...

The average democracy lasts 150 years. Canada will celebrate its 157th bday in 2024. Enjoy it while it lasts!!

Anonymous said...


The lack of wisdom on this issue is astounding. 2% is the amount of housing this will affect nationally. Slightly higher on the coast. Prices for rentals may drop by 5% temporarily Then rocket past current rates as intrest rates drop next year and taxes increase thanks to the rampant mismanagement at the DOT. Get a grip humans there is no "right " to live in a specific region of this country...especially one as idyllic os Tofino. Local governance needs some level of fiscal accountability not rampant socialist ideology. Time for Josie and Gordy to go. Thay got their bloated pensions and had their time at the VR trough. Work harder get ahead..some of this Community get it some don't. How many NGO's and non-profits can a small town support? Time to wake up.

Anonymous said...

11:41...... I did move back in with a couple of not bad roommates and rented my yard to six trailers/motorhomes who HPV $900 a month for the privilege of being there. It works out really well. No additional tax burden on mobile homes or vehicles. Nothing says I can't do this and besides we do need staff housing really badly. I am

Anonymous said...

5:07PM, Give up, it's hopeless. They're stupid, gullible, sheep. All they know how to do is listen to the lies they're fed and react as their masters hope they will.
Trudeau and his Liberal/NDP minions tell them that the "housing accelerator fund", along with the other "federal inititives" will solve the problem, and they bite on and believe it. They don't understand that this only means their tax dollars are going to be directed into the pockets of Trudeau's supporters, and not much is going to improve in the housing situation.
Josie told them that her "war" on STR's was going be the solution, and then she spent hundreds of thousands or her legal fight with SCBH. She won. No housing was created, but she "won". How much was wasted? No one knows, it's protected information covered by a non disclosure agreement. But the sheep learned something about housing by following Josie's "information"--they learned that STR's are the cause of the housing crisis. And they still believe it.
Now the provincial NDP government has taken a page from Josie's playbook and , once again,the sheep are told that STR's are the evil problem. Once again, the sheep believe what they're told.
The sheep. Not their fault, they just want to go surfing, maybe work 3-4 days per week, and have a home to live in on a budget they can afford. Like $600 per month for themselves and their very well behaved fur baby. Hydro and internet included, of course. On the beach would be ideal, please. Unfortunately, every one of them gets a vote..... and they've been convinced that the destruction of the STR industry is somehow going to be the magic bullet that will provide them with the housing illusion that they daydream of. And next election, they'll vote for Trudeau, and Josie, and the NDP, and the same municipal seating arrangement we have today. Not their fault, they're only sheep.

Anonymous said...

11:41 AM. Great thoughts. What is your plan for what you'll be doing with YOUR house? Let me guess....YOU don't own one.

Anonymous said...

8:48PM You are correct I don't own one, I own two,

Anonymous said...

I own three and a fur baby. That makes my vote more meaningful. In fact I RAISE YOU TWO FUR BABIES....so there, take that.

Anonymous said...

"But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime." - Frederic Bastiat The Law

Anonymous said...

Who wrote the Law??? Does it not favour them? Does not the Law itself take from one and give to another. Are we not becoming a feudal throwback. It's the land owners against the serf's. Against those who have no standing and no land.

Anonymous said...

Ever since the government folded the office of the inspector of municipalities and the ombudsman there is simply no recourse to a local government abusing power. Over the next few years each municipality or regional district, at least on the island, became a fiefdom with resident Dukes, princes, and Earls in the places of building inspectors,planners, approving officers etc. It does seem like the return of feudalism especially when you get the affordable housing project which was originally designed to have three types of housing: ownership rental and buy and build - given over to rental only it creates an entire serf/slave population whose only job here is to serve their masters so they can pay the rent to the rent masters… Friends of mayors etc. What will it take to restore a sense of decency and democratic behaviour to local governments? You can't do that because oh my God it will upset the union and you can't have that. Yes the dark ages are upon us once again.

Anonymous said...

from Blendr News....
Interest rates may come down, but high housing prices and lack of supply remain a concern. This might also trigger a resurgence in the market leading to potential bidding wars in an already unaffordable market. It’s sort of a ‘damned if you do and damned if you don’t’ situation for the Liberals.

The federal government has announced measures to boost supply, but their effectiveness will be closely watched as they failed miserably in 2023. They missed their target of 275,000 completed homes by roughly 60,000 units or 22%. In fact, they built less homes last year than they did fifty years ago, while being 'home' to approximately twice the population. Regardless, these numbers are still a very far cry away from the 400,000 per year they promised to build for the next decade back in April 2022.

It’s also pertinent to note that our record immigration numbers - projected at 1.37 million in 2023, including non-permanent residence - are making housing affordability an impossible problem to solve.

Anonymous said...

In reference to 7:22 – the figures don't lie that idealism hasn't provided the affordable housing that it promised. Or enough actual housing to make a dent in ideal numbers projected by those who would govern.

Anonymous said...

If the Lib/NDP coalition would totally commit to 15 minute cities as well as eliminating tourism all together, the numbers might work. Not only would it help the housing situation, but it would also be a big plus for the environment. Canada could probably drop their global total carbon emissions down from 1.2 to 1.199999999999%.

Anonymous said...

You cannot simply just focus on carbon emissions.
It's also important that you rinse off your trash so it can be recycled.
In Tofino, recycling means baling the stuff, hauling by truck to Nanaimo, and converting it to energy (burning it).
I'm not sure exactly how the carbon tax figures into this.

Anonymous said...

@10:54 is that what is really happening to all of our recycling?

Anonymous said...

Remember how at the start of the plandemic the buzz word was “living wage”. It was used in the context that people would be willing to work if the pay allowed for a decent living. Does anyone have any idea what a living wage would be now? From my experience, a household income of $100k doesn’t get you ahead, it only allows you to exist. But it does allow you to pay a boat load of taxes, that in turn gets you free stuff!!

Ralph Tieleman said...

On Nov. 9, the Clayoquot Biosphere Trust 2023 vital signs report was launched, revealing an over five-dollar increase in the living wage for Vancouver Island’s west coast communities.

The living wage grew to $26.51 per hour, while in 2021 it was $21.25.

According to Living Wage BC stats, Clayoquot Sound’s living wage is the highest in the province.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Ralph. Add in rate hikes in insurance, hydro, water, CCP, EI, municipal, provincial, and federal taxes, equipment costs, trucking, supply chain increases and of course the triple tax carbon tax, and it is easy to see why Gordo left his position as small business critic and started lobbying for big pharma.

Anonymous said...

And then there is Josie bragging about how the NDP created 74000 jobs in B.C. in 2023, the second most of any province. What she fails to mention is that BC also took in the second most immigrants, totalling approximately 200,000. So in reality, we have 130,000 more people not contributing to society, but using our public services. She might want to look at the San Francisco model where the homeless are given a tent and a sleeping bag when they arrive.

Anonymous said...

so 74,000 low paying jobs in which sectors? after eliminating a large number of higher paying jobs in mining logging etc. 300 alone at myra falls mine site on the island. except many new jobs are in government, enviro consulting, and various make work positions, that carry political responsibilities. I tend to think of this method of governance as cronyism.

Anonymous said...

Are you talking about the same Gordo who ridiculed PP when he suggested to buy into Bitcoin as a way of combatting inflation. Since that time, Bitcoin has become the worlds best performing asset, up over 140%. For perspective, during this same time, Gord and his gang have rung up the national debt to the point that it costs the feds over a billion dollars per week in interest. The government is now spending more on debt servicing than on healthcare or the military. With the floodgates still open for immigration and foreign students, its going to get a lot worse. It is sad that all of those nice teeth won't have food to eat!!

Anonymous said...

Oh quit your complaining. You can now get $10 per day child care. You people expect the government to solve all your problems for you.

What would you do if you were in Christia Freelands shoes and had to endure seeing the line ups at the local food bank getting longer. Imagine how terrible she feels.

Anonymous said...

If I were Christia Freeland I would get out of the way and let somebody else have a go.

Anonymous said...

@7:47 I don't expect the government to solve any of my problems but I do expect them not to cause more. If I were Miss Freeland, I would be wishing I didn't major in Slavic studies and should have instead majored in economics. Or are you being sarcastic?

Anonymous said...

It is always the tyranny of a few that robs the good census of the majority.

Anonymous said...

Even though the majority thinks tyranny is horrible nobody says anything until the Nazis take over the government and that's the end of that.......

Anonymous said...

9:49 I couldn't agree more. The freedom convoy gave it a go, but even our local MP is on record suggesting that they tried to commit arson to justify his vote to enact the Emergency Act. Of course this was proven false, but hey the fed's stomped (literally)out those opposed to the tyranny!! And all those MSM sheep still side with the Gordo's. Canada is f&%ked.

Anonymous said...

the dictatorial morons are already the government..thats what the people want - they believe..not hearing anything or wanting to consider common sense, facts, civilized discussions, history, or anything in conflict with idealistic self centered narcissism.

Anonymous said...

With Sleepy Joe hell bent on starting WW3, Trudeau is hell bent on sourcing Nerf guns for the Canadian military. Apparently they launch a mean tampon.

Anonymous said...

11:43 AM

I also couldn't agree more. Tyranny is already upon us. Most people just don't know it. They're about to learn though.

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.    
— Frank Zappa

"Its a cotton-wrapped hammer , for the moment. But at a certain point they wont need the cotton, and we'll feel the true intent."

Regarding our" buffet specialist" in Ottawa who purports to represent us. A person might ask, is he really that uninformed or did he just play dumb all along in order to get that golden parachute pension? Well he's got it now. The procurement of a shirt with a larger neck size would definitely be something to consider.
What a farce.
Instead of having the courage to back the good citizens behind causes such as the the Trucker Convoy or the National Citizens Inquiry, he chose to hide behind a known grifter in solidarity with him and remain silent in the face of an ongoing tragedy. How shameful, is the attempt to pass off cowardice for integrity.

Anonymous said...

We expect leadership that has some ability to perform. Has sincerity and openness. Has a little courage to speak the truth to us when it is uncomfortable Not these self serving trough feeders. If the future is written by their ilk. They will be magnificent. The future of our once proud....everything..... is like waste paper going down the toilet.

Anonymous said...

from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.....

"You took the time to fill out our Annual Survey and now comes the fun part: results.

There’s still a lot of analysis left to do, but we have some key tidbits to share.

First, we asked whether Canada’s going in the right direction.

About 93 per cent said Canada’s going in the wrong direction.

We also asked supporters which part of our mandate is most important: lower taxes, less waste or more accountable government.

Here’s what our supporters said:

5.4 per cent lower taxes
2.9 per cent less waste
28.1 per cent more accountable government
61.8 per cent all of the above"

Anonymous said...

It's interesting to note that "more accountable government" gathers such a large number, compared to the other answers. What does this tell us?

It tells us that an awful lot of people believe that our government is comprised of a bunch of dishonest crooks living in luxury at the expense of "the rabble", who know full well that they're going to get away with it.

The system is flawed. Change is required. In France, in the 1770's, they used the guillotine.

Anonymous said...

It certainly is great that Josie is able to import fossil fuel generated power from out of province to offset B.C. shortages while at the same time choking off natural gas development in the province. It definitely helps the environment, suppresses good paying jobs for locals so they will better qualify for all the generous government programs and for sure keeps B.C. Hydro rates in check. And not to worry, soon, during peak demand, the city buses will be able to reverse charge onto the grid. And if that doesn’t work, we can always just import more fossil fuel generated power.