Best part is where they say that their arguments were "hard to follow" and that it was "like they were grasping at straws"
Also, it's not all about affordable housing. It's about leveling the playing field for all involved. There are many in this town who have spent considerable time and money to bring their properties into compliance.
It is truly great that the mayor has stuck to her guns in the battle against businesses such as South Chestermans Beach Homes that were operating in such a way that their zoning was contravened. That is true leadership.
South Chesterman nightly condo rentals were never legal which is something we have all known since they were built. The South end of the beach has been a gong show for years and I hope this is the start of rebuilding an actual neighbourhood with more people living there. If not, this is still the right ruling! This isn't going to solve the housing issue but it does solve the legal issue. Karma can be a bitch.
yes leave the unsightly out-of-control bylaw violations alone IE pool land, crabapple, Mears Vista, & the eco-lodge alone... Leave them to make tons of money & create Health and safety issues galore.... There's a double standard here which sucks. But never mind the whole town has been turned into an investment opportunity without any forethought of upholding or preserving the community..... The district has sold the community & thrown its values under the bus.
I think everyone commenting negatively is missing a key point: the District is taking on new challenges (and winning) at a reasonable and realistic pace. To take on everything at once would be unrealistic - the resources simply don't exist in such a small town. You shouldn't take away from a victory by pointing fingers elsewhere. The time will come for Poolesland and other properties that are non-compliant. This was a long and uphill battle and it's finally been supported by a judgement. The consequences will create long-term housing and send a message to non-compliant businesses that the District is serious - and that, in turn, will "free up" bylaw resources to tackle other property issues.
What new challenges (plural) are you referring to, and what new winning. Please tell.
The symbolism of the District winning in this case is something, granted, but how can the Mayor be so satisfied if the intention is to move on to other violations, like where she lives. If she wants to pursue that, save the taxpayers some money and just get hubby to give it up. If she doesn't you are just blowing smoke. I don't believe these other properties have even been served.
The reality is that these Chesterman's units are unlikely to be used as residences for working people in Tofino. More likely the playgrounds for those from away and those in a higher tax bracket.
Council could have got $400,000.00 plus cash, rezoned to commercial and gained $100,000.00 annually, in taxes, increasing over time without even negotiating. And then, done something productive with the money. I will repeat....and done something productive with the money...be it housing or infrastructure....That would be winning in my books, that seems to be the harder kind of winning for Tofino Councils....Opportunity lost...
Who was that Greek guy who went to battle against the Romans and won battle after battle, till there was none of his soldiers left. Then lost the war. Starts with a "P".
1084 PACIFIC RIM HWY TOFINO Area-Jurisdiction-Roll: 04-580-00158.000 Favourite Compare [Print view] Print Report a problem Total value Assessed as of 01-07-2018 $2,111,700
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3:50 said it. The South Chesterman Beachhomes will of course be the beach 'pied a terres' for those with higher incomes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming. The values are such (see latest assessments) that those that do go on the market will be scooped up by folks that won't live here (nothing new). Tofino gained absolutely nothing! Was it the resorts and hotels that put the pressure on? One only has to wonder as the time has gone where locals could ever possibly think of owning or living on the beach. This was not the answer. Valuable tax revenues lost for what will become a dark neighbourhood along with all the monster houses. Brilliant Mayor & Council. Way to go.
Just looked at the posted video....Very illuminating. Pooleland breaks every bylaw in the book. Fire, access and egress., building code, zoning and health regulations. Sanctioned by your Mayor. I'd be curious to know what Poole pays in taxes...Selective enforcement of the bylaws in the extreme. She wants to work with them, isn't that nice. Pooleland has been there since before South Chestermans was constructed. How long will this "working it out" take? Now I understand. The Poolanders espouse a philosophy she has sympathy for. Illegalities are not important. Interesting how they can be swished away with a good turn of phrase and become a non factor I have no doubt they will all be Josie supporters too. Wouldn't want to bother them. No.
I don't even care what happens at South Chesterman's. I don't care who won and who lost. After viewing the video. Taking South Chesterman's to court is looking more like persecution. Be it ideological or political. Justice hasn't just removed her blindfold, she speaks out of both sides of her mouth as well. This is a far more serious problem in a democracy. This is corruption.
Equality under the law is a fundamental Canadian democratic principle. Because the law is just a Tofino bylaw does not mean it can be inforced, or not enforced in an arbitrary or selective manner. Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Call it discrimination. Take it to the court.
I think the wind has changed... So what now? Actual equal treatment by Tofino bylaw? Complaint based bylaws are a lazy excuse fore favoritism. Time for an enquiy by the provincial ombudspersons office. Transperancy and integrity
The South Chesterman condos are still advertising and they look full for the summer. I'm so happy my business lisc fees went up for enforcement of illegal rentals. https://www.vrbo.com/615181?noDates=true&petIncluded=false
Just think of all those cheap rentals that will be available now. Way to go District in solving the affordable housing problem!
ReplyDeleteBest part is where they say that their arguments were "hard to follow" and that it was "like they were grasping at straws"
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's not all about affordable housing. It's about leveling the playing field for all involved. There are many in this town who have spent considerable time and money to bring their properties into compliance.
Good job District of Tofino for not backing down.
It is truly great that the mayor has stuck to her guns in the battle against businesses such as South Chestermans Beach Homes that were operating in such a way that their zoning was contravened. That is true leadership.
ReplyDeleteSouth Chesterman nightly condo rentals were never legal which is something we have all known since they were built. The South end of the beach has been a gong show for years and I hope this is the start of rebuilding an actual neighbourhood with more people living there. If not, this is still the right ruling! This isn't going to solve the housing issue but it does solve the legal issue. Karma can be a bitch.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why this council loves Poole’s Land but hates South Chestermans ? Both totally illegal .
ReplyDeletePoole isn’t an arrogant asshole . That explain it ?
ReplyDeleteBylaw in Tofino is a complaint based operation . I guess nobody has complained about Poole’s .
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yes leave the unsightly out-of-control bylaw violations alone IE pool land, crabapple, Mears Vista, & the eco-lodge alone... Leave them to make tons of money & create Health and safety issues galore.... There's a double standard here which sucks. But never mind the whole town has been turned into an investment opportunity without any forethought of upholding or preserving the community..... The district has sold the community & thrown its values under the bus.
ReplyDeleteAfter chalking up a win against South Chestermans , I’m sure council will go after Pooles and the Ecolodge.
DeleteHahaha !! As if !!
ReplyDeleteAdvice to SOuth Chestermans : start selling mushrooms and have your tenants steal bicycles and surfboards. Then you are exempt from bylaws or zoning .
ReplyDeleteI think everyone commenting negatively is missing a key point: the District is taking on new challenges (and winning) at a reasonable and realistic pace. To take on everything at once would be unrealistic - the resources simply don't exist in such a small town. You shouldn't take away from a victory by pointing fingers elsewhere. The time will come for Poolesland and other properties that are non-compliant. This was a long and uphill battle and it's finally been supported by a judgement. The consequences will create long-term housing and send a message to non-compliant businesses that the District is serious - and that, in turn, will "free up" bylaw resources to tackle other property issues.
ReplyDeleteWhat new challenges (plural) are you referring to, and what new winning. Please tell.
ReplyDeleteThe symbolism of the District winning in this case is something, granted, but how can the Mayor be so satisfied if the intention is to move on to other violations, like where she lives. If she wants to pursue that, save the taxpayers some money and just get hubby to give it up. If she doesn't you are just blowing smoke. I don't believe these other properties have even been served.
The reality is that these Chesterman's units are unlikely to be used as residences for working people in Tofino. More likely the playgrounds for those from away and those in a higher tax bracket.
Council could have got $400,000.00 plus cash, rezoned to commercial and gained $100,000.00 annually, in taxes, increasing over time without even negotiating. And then, done something productive with the money. I will repeat....and done something productive with the money...be it housing or infrastructure....That would be winning in my books, that seems to be the harder kind of winning for Tofino Councils....Opportunity lost...
Who was that Greek guy who went to battle against the Romans and won battle after battle, till there was none of his soldiers left. Then lost the war. Starts with a "P".
ReplyDelete1084 PACIFIC RIM HWY TOFINO
Area-Jurisdiction-Roll: 04-580-00158.000
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Total value Assessed as of 01-07-2018
$2,111,700
Land
Buildings
$963,300
$1,148,400
Previous year value
Land
Buildings
$1,994,000
$920,900
$1,073,100
Legal description and parcel ID
District Lot 123 Land District 09 Except Plan 20646 28696 & VIP73401 BOTANICAL GARDENS
PID: 009-391-339
Year built 2006
Description Dormitory
Bedrooms
Baths
Carports
Garages
Land size 12.128 Acres
3:50 said it. The South Chesterman Beachhomes will of course be the beach 'pied a terres' for those with higher incomes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming. The values are such (see latest assessments) that those that do go on the market will be scooped up by folks that won't live here (nothing new). Tofino gained absolutely nothing! Was it the resorts and hotels that put the pressure on? One only has to wonder as the time has gone where locals could ever possibly think of owning or living on the beach. This was not the answer. Valuable tax revenues lost for what will become a dark neighbourhood along with all the monster houses.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant Mayor & Council. Way to go.
New Poole's Land Video
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/2bs24nK5er8
Featuring Tofino Mayor Josie Osborne turning a blind eye
Just looked at the posted video....Very illuminating. Pooleland breaks every bylaw in the book. Fire, access and egress., building code, zoning and health regulations. Sanctioned by your Mayor. I'd be curious to know what Poole pays in taxes...Selective enforcement of the bylaws in the extreme. She wants to work with them, isn't that nice. Pooleland has been there since before South Chestermans was constructed. How long will this "working it out" take? Now I understand. The Poolanders espouse a philosophy she has sympathy for. Illegalities are not important. Interesting how they can be swished away with a good turn of phrase and become a non factor I have no doubt they will all be Josie supporters too. Wouldn't want to bother them. No.
ReplyDeleteI don't even care what happens at South Chesterman's. I don't care who won and who lost. After viewing the video. Taking South Chesterman's to court is looking more like persecution. Be it ideological or political. Justice hasn't just removed her blindfold, she speaks out of both sides of her mouth as well. This is a far more serious problem in a democracy. This is corruption.
Equality under the law is a fundamental Canadian democratic principle. Because the law is just a Tofino bylaw does not mean it can be inforced, or not enforced in an arbitrary or selective manner. Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Call it discrimination. Take it to the court.
ReplyDeleteI think the wind has changed... So what now? Actual equal treatment by Tofino bylaw? Complaint based bylaws are a lazy excuse fore favoritism. Time for an enquiy by the provincial ombudspersons office. Transperancy and integrity
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ReplyDelete"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"
HOSEA 8:7
Why are they still being advertised on AirBnB?
ReplyDeleteRalph,
ReplyDeleteI enjoy your sometimes controversial topics, time for another post!
The South Chesterman condos are still advertising and they look full for the summer. I'm so happy my business lisc fees went up for enforcement of illegal rentals. https://www.vrbo.com/615181?noDates=true&petIncluded=false
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